A Reply!

Salam all.. i know its been a long time.. but here we are.. 🙂

So the thing is that I have been researching into universities recently and came across a wonderful forum filled with information.. The thing was that there was a kid on board who wasnt friendly to muslims.. I asked him to question and it turned out to be a good research point for me as well.. I am going to copy down his question and my reply to him.. its a bit long but i guess its worth it..

Mouse MD wrote:

I have a couple of questions and try my best to answer them and address them directly, you may qualify
your answer with the verses within the Koran or any historic document that you deem is aproppriate.

1.) Was Muhammed really an exemplary prophet?

I filtered some of the graphic verses and looked from some friendly ones:

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [Koran, al-Ma’idah 5:51.11]
Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars. [Koran 9:107]
Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

2.) How can Islam claim to be a religion of peace??

Their policies on war, looting and pillaging are opposite of peaceful. If Islam was indeed peaceful, why did it propagate through violence instead of commuting peaceful acts?

imsyed wrote:

Yes The Prophet (S) was not just an exemplary prophet but was an exemplary personality for all..
The Quran describes the prophet as the mercy for all mankind.. but i dont find it appropriate to prove this from the Quran..
lets take the opinions of historians,philosophers and truly exemplary men who have actually done research and not just a few google searches..

French philosopher Lamartime’s view in short :

“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls. . . his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma.”
“Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”

Famous play right George bernard shaw :

“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him – the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity.”

“I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness.”

Michael H. Hart in his famous book the 100: Ranked Muhammad (S) at the top saying “he was the only man in history who was successful on both religous and secular levels” (refer the link for the rankings) Source wikipedia.

This is already getting pretty long.. so I will end the first part with a saying from (called by many and by no doubt) one of the most influential people in the world…

“I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind…. I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.” – Mahatma Gandhi smile

I doubt that you hold more knowledge than these people and are a better judge…

I am sorry if this is getting longer but its not a 2+2 question..


The Word “Islam” is literally translated to peace.. when we meet a fellow brother we say “Salam un alikum” which means Peace be upon you.

Islam hasnt spread by the sword and i think if u have read so far Gandhi agrees..
James Michener From his book ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion,’ Reader’s Digest, May 1955, pp. 68-70.
“No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience.”

The things you watch and listen on CNN are not holy word.. the 9/11 incident was NOT an example of jihad..
The Holy Quran Says : “But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things).” (Surah 8, Verse 61).

In addition, the following were the instructions of Prophet Mohammad (S) to Muslims who are forced to fight a war:
“Do not kill women or children or non-combatants and do not kill old people or religious people,” and he mentioned priests, nuns and rabbis. And he said, “Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees and do not poison the wells of your enemies.”

Although not completely related i see that u are a ‘fan’ of buddhisim..
The principal teachings of Gautama Buddha can be summarised in what the Buddhists call the ‘Four Noble Truths’:
The first three being:
First – There is suffering and misery in life.
Second- The cause of this suffering and misery is desire.
Third – Suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire.

Desire… Ali Bin Ahmad informed us that Ahmad Bin Ubaid narrated : ‘Some warriors came to the Holy Prophet. He said to them, ‘welcome back, you came from Jihad e asghar to the Jihad eAKBAR .’ It was asked, ‘what is that Oh Prophet of God?’ ‘One’s fight against his NAFS,’ he replied.’ (Bahaqi Kitab ul Zuhd-al-Kabir)

Akbar means the greater or bigger Jihad and Nafs refers to the Desires.. there are different categories of Nafs but thats not what we are going to talk about.. i hope it did mean somethin though..
Islam is not a person.. its a belief.. As my father always tells me not all five fingers are alike.. there are good and bad ppl from every religion, country and time.

al-Ma’idah 5:69.13
Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

The References you provide do hold reasoning.. but its no use talking about them if you dont hold a neutral thought.. which quite frankly you dont.. all the references you pick are taken from one or two particular sites.. If u keep reading them you dont want to try to find out about Islam.. All you want to find is how you tackle it..

Well I hope that I did if not completely, answer your question.. Whether or not u are satisfied by them is your choice..
But still if there are any questions.. I will be glad to answer with the best possible reasoning..

P.S this was not a copy paste.. i have spent time.. and those who want to close their eyes can! they are the ones in loss not me… but those who want to KNOW are welcome to question smile

Thats it.. what do u guys think ??


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